Showing posts with label Language. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Language. Show all posts

April 23, 2008

Groovy New Learning Tool

Got a link to this in the mail today. NCIKU "more than a dictionary" indeed. It's a handy little website for all of your Mandarin learning needs...as long as you're not in need of Traditional characters, apparently. You can enter characters with mouse strokes. You can browse a thematic glossary and listen to pronunciation samples. You can ask questions. You can chat. What else do you want?

Ok, traditional characters would be nice.

UPDATE: Just heard back from Clark at nciku. Nice guy, that Clark. He says that they are currently developing an interface with Traditional characters as well as one for the Korean language. I'm not saying "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" but there you go. Go enjoy it. And then, when the Traditional version shows up, go learn some more. Then when you get tired of the Taiwan scene, go to Korea. Learn Asian languages forever. And then go back to America to bag groceries when you retire. The end.

January 30, 2008

Flashcard Workshop

August 15, 2007

Chinese Language Tool

Got Firefox? I don't think IE does this. MDBG, the free online Chinese Dictionary is now searchable via the Google search box. It's pretty cool. You can either enter English or Chinese characters or Pinyin, click search, and up pops a page with a list of possibilities. You can then click on the correct word and it takes you to a page from which the characters can be copied for pasting.
使用方便.

August 13, 2007

Snarky Tofu: Taiwan's Linguistic Inscrutability Complex

Snarky Tofu: Taiwan's Linguistic Inscrutability Complex

JoSamBro has aptly renamed his blog. His latest entry is on the local habit of reminding us "out country people" that we are not part of their club by switching to Taiwanese when they discover that we can understand Mandarin.

This has happened to me a couple times in situations where I have known the conversants (I'm a blogger, I make up words), and in each case of linguo-switching it was pretty obvious that they were making the switch to talk about me. One guy was the security guard in my building and he was complaining to his co-worker about the foreigner who complains too much. Something like that. The other was a disagreeable coworker in a previous life. It'd be nice if people wouldn't talk about you behind your back in front of your face, but these aren't nice people doing it.

Someone once let me borrow the phrase "Consider the source" in situations where negative comments are offered up about you. Judge for yourself if this person's opinion of you really matters. Of course, this makes you a judgemental prick, as well. Hmm...

I've found myself in situations where everyone knows that I speak Mandarin, but they insist on speaking Taiwanese. Perhaps they are more comfortable with the regional dialect. That's fine, I'm more comfortable reading my book in the back seat of the car. Actually, I'd be more comfortable in the front seat.

If anyone wants to speak to me, they know what language I'm most capable of using.

I have learned a few phrases in Taiwanese, and from hanging out with my in-laws, I have improved my listening comprehension to about 25%. That is, I can follow the ebb and flow of a conversation to a certain extent after which it becomes lulling. Occasionally, I will interrupt and ask what a phrase was that I've heard over and over again as if that phrase will unlock the conversation. Sometimes it does, sometimes they switch to Mandarin for awhile.

Linguistic Assumption is something I've encountered more often with Mandarin, though. A few months after I arrived, I was entering a classroom and a student's mother told her friend that I was very handsome. I turned immediately and said, "xie-xie." She was definitely a MILF (Mom I'd Love to Fluster)

Another time, I stepped onto an elevator in that building back in a previous life. A younger woman turned to her friend and said, "Ni kan, zhe-ge waiguoren yingai bu hwei jiang zhong wen. (Look at this foreigner, he probably doesn't speak Chinese.)" To which I replied in her right ear" "Yingai bu hwei, ba! (Y'know, you're probably right!)" The poor girl got flustered.

I guess what you have to do is just pick up a few phrases of Taiwanese that you can uncork in certain situations. I usually squeeze a few out when I meet a new group of people. Tinki bei bai, hoh? A-nei hoh? Swee! Tinyabo! (Nice weather, eh? Is that right? Beautiful! I don't understand.) This suggests that I know a little Taiwanese, and they often reckon it's better to talk about the A-do-ga when he's out of ear shot rather than sooner. My MILF (Manager I Loved to Filet) at that other school told me every time I spoke to her in Taiwanese that she would no longer be able to say bad things about me. I told her that she shouldn't be saying those things about anybody. But, she's a bitch.

June 18, 2007

Chinese Buffalo

I just Stumbled Upon an English curiosity which I used on a group of adults in class about a year ago. Goes like this:


Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

It was an interesting class for a Friday afternoon for a group of students who swore they they were getting too much vocabulary.

After looking over the article on Wikipedia, I saw a link to another similar article about a Lion-Eating Poet in a Stone Den. 96 characters, all pronounced as Shi, though in different tones. « Shī Shì shí shī shǐ »

《施氏吃獅子記》

有一位住在石室裏的詩人叫施氏,愛吃獅子,決心要吃十隻獅子。
他常常去市場看獅子。
十點鐘,剛好有十隻獅子到了市場。
那時候,剛好施氏也到了市場。
他看見那十隻獅子,便放箭,把那十隻獅子殺死了。
他拾起那十隻獅子的屍體,帶到石室。
石室濕了水,施氏叫侍從把石室擦乾。
石室擦乾了,他才試試吃那十隻獅子。
吃的時候,才發現那十隻獅子,原來是十隻石頭的獅子屍體。
試試解釋這件事吧。

Follow the link for an explanation and translation.

April 06, 2007

Taiwanese Humor

晴天 需要好好學英文的原因
> (一)
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> 一位在美的留學生,想要考國際駕照。
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> 在考試時因為過於緊張,看到地上標線是向左轉。
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> 他不放 心的問道:turn left?
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> 監考官回答:Right!於是他立刻向右轉。
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> 很抱歉他只有下次再來。


A guy goes to get his driver's license in the States. He's nervous as hell because his English isn't exactly up to speed. During the road test, he sees a left turn arrow. He asks the instructor, "Turn left?" He answers, "Right." The student failed the test. Better luck next time.

> (二)
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> 某人刻苦學習英語,終有小成。(One day a Taiwanese guy bumps into a foreigner on the street.)
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> 一日上街不慎与一老外相撞,忙說:I am sorry.
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> 老外應道:I am sorry too.
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> 某人聽後又道:I am sorry three.
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> 老外不解,問:What are you sorry for?
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> 某人無奈,道:I am sorry five.
>


> (三)
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> 某男,亦粗通英文,至使館,有表要填,有一欄是sex。
>
> 該男思之久已, 毅然下筆:Once a week。
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> 簽證官觀后暴笑,曰:This item should be filled in with male or female.
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> 該男頓時赧顏,思之,填下:Female.
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> 官楞之,曰:Shouldn't it be male?
>
> 男急釋曰:I am a normal man, so i have sex with female

January 23, 2007

One Guy's Opinion...Oh! Did You See The Colts?

I had a demonstration class at a bicycle components manufacturer this evening. I was told to prepare two classes for 5-6 people, one intermediate, one "High-Intermediate." I got one high-intermediate student, and three intermediate students. No sweat, they were a great bunch to teach for a half an hour. It was one of those situations where there is no syllabus, no placement test, no text book, please make it interactive. That sort of thing. With Free Coffee...and ducats.

The first session went off without a hitch. They both did, actually. Thanks. In the second session, we did a quick little activity on Starting a Conversation. We talked about when, why, and how, and then why not. Not to stereotype engineers (there's a but coming), because we all know where the world would be without them, but the average engineer in my experience in Taiwan is not the most gregarious individual. Or robust. That said, at least two of my in-laws are engineers and wonderfully amusing people to be around (love you guys, mean it).

What I was trying to get at was "What are some situations in which you would be likely to start a conversation with a foreigner-stranger?" Immediately you have alarm bells. They don't want to talk to strange foreigners. Having done my share of human resources work in Taiwan, I know exactly where they're coming from. But once we got Stranger (ie someone you don't know very well) and Strange Foreigner (ie Canadian) straightened out, it was rough for them to figure out just when they would want to initiate a conversation with a foreigner.

Years ago, I mentioned over a beer that I had recommended that my students talk to honkies that they see on the street, y'know, just to ask them where they are from, stuff like that. The North Americans I was sitting with were aghast. "Oh for Fuck's Sake, Man! Don't do THAT!" I won't mention what country they were from, I'll just say that they often have a tendency to place overmuch emphasis on the minutiae of money. (I must be very careful with my stereotypes here. I may have already alienated the engineers in the world, and next thing you know the Canadians will be after me. Oh, now I've gone and done it.) What this gentleman was objecting to was the fact that he wasn't paid to speak to the locals outside of the class, & if they wanted to practice their English with him, they were going to have to pony up.

Now I can't imagine why anyone would want to pay money to have a conversation with that guy, but this is Taiwan. Personally, it depends on what kind of mood I'm in. There are a few kids that I meet on my daily travels that like to come out and say hello and see what's up. It takes a lot of guts to go up to someone and speak to them in their native language. Especially if you don't know if that person is going to bite your head off. I am as polite as I can be to anyone who politely approaches me and wants to practice their English for a minute or two. The hosptial and the bathroom are off-limits, I told the students tonight.

Like most everyone else, I'm turned off by parents who twist their kid's arms behind their back to get them to say "Hi Uncle." And the folks zipping by moo-ing at me, I can do without. I never would have learned Chinese if people weren't willing to speak to me on the street. Some folks over the years have been rude bastards, but I kept plugging away.

So, where does an engineer go for hot one-on-one English conversation? There's a public computer station, but that's not a very good place to talk as folks are busy. There's no elevator in the building, so there's not that uncomfortable silence between floors to break. There seems to be some segregation at meal time and after work. One student volunteered that they don't like to talk to anyone they don't know. This rule of thumb only goes for foreigners, though.

Why would that be, do you think? Stress, mostly. With Americans, one guy said, the conversation goes from topic to topic faster than you can say "Attention Defecit" and the locals have a hard time keeping up. This isn't the first I've heard this from a Taiwanese student, but it's the first time I've heard it as a reason why they'd rather just not attempt to talk to foreigners. The reason they gave for not wanting to talk to the Germans is that the Germans will just stare at them after giving them a one or two word answer so the Taiwanese person slinks away back to his workstation.

I'm going to try both of these things this week. First I'll try to stay on one topic for eight hours. The next day I will answer every question with one or two word answers, die my hair blonde, and stare like a hun when Caty at the Early Bird asks me if I would like some more coffee. And if she tries to take my order in English, I may tell her--in Mandarin-- that she's not paying me to practice English. It'll be a multi-cultural irritant experiment.

April 17, 2006

Learning to flirt in Chinese. By Michael Erard

Learning to flirt in Chinese. By Michael Erard

This comes via Slate.com. I haven't checked into it yet, but will as soon as I finish listening to Dark Star. Sounds a lot like the English radio programming they run in Taiwan.

Ok, checked it. This may be just what I ought to have been looking for. There are opportunities for listening practice all over the place in Taiwan, but the subject matter hasn't done much to hold my interest. At Chinesepod, they discuss culture and language with learners in mind and the folks doing the talking have actual personalities. It's not a laugh riot by any stretch of the imagination, but it's nowhere near as dull as a class at TLI.

The Premium services look quite nice, too (I only know because they give you the premium service free for the first 7 days--just like a crack dealer) If you mouse over the characters, the Pinyin transcription and English translation come up. It's pretty convenient, and would be moreso if the characters weren't the simplified version. In all fairness, though, more people use the simplified characters than the traditional characters used in Taiwan, Macau, and Hong Kong.

Digging a little more deeply, in their Wiki section, there's a page of street signs and their translations. Among others, the Chinese for "please don't disorderly throw away fruit peel paper crumbs," "it's not allowed to spit anywhere," and "gas station, be careful with fire."

Definitely a site to be bookmarked. (Or, even Chipmarked)